Re: [libre-riscv-dev] daily kan-ban update 18may2020
authorStaf Verhaegen <staf@fibraservi.eu>
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+Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton schreef op ma 18-05-2020 om 12:45 [+0100]:
+> * and had a fascinating conversation thanks to yehowshua and jeremy(also =
+welcome!), which resulted in this(https://libre-soc.org/3d_gpu/architecture=
+/tomasulo_transformation/).
+
+If I understand this correct the big architectural difference between exten=
+ded scoreboarding and Tomasulo is that in the former the register content i=
+s stored in a central register file and for the latter it is distributed ov=
+er several 'reservation stations'. In order to scale to for example multi-i=
+ssue you need to go to higher order nRmW register files for scoreboarding a=
+nd for Tomasulo you increase the number of reservation stations together wi=
+th a more complex tracker of the register tagging/aliasing.
+So some 2 cents from me.
+=46rom physical implementation point of view the central high order nRmW regi=
+ster file and scoreboard does worry me. Higher order nRmW register files wi=
+ll become power and area hungry compared to multiple lower order reservatio=
+n stations.
+I have seen numbers of a few tens of functional units in your design. I thi=
+nk it will become also a nightmare to connect and route all the input and o=
+utputs of all the functional units to the central register file and scorebo=
+ard. So at first sight, from physical implementation point for smaller node=
+s, the Tomasulo algorithm seems more scalable than extended scoreboarding. =
+I indicated before that in smaller nodes power consumption and delay is mai=
+nly determined by the length of the interconnects and not by the input load=
+ of the logic gates itself; in 180nm it will be more fifty/fifty. As Jeremy=
+ indicated this is next to the power consumption in the register files and =
+cache which scales with the total bit count of the block and the nRmW order=
+ of the block.
+Also the travialness of a big fan-in NOR or NAND gate may be deceptive, the=
+se gates are not feasible and will be synthesized to trees of NAND/NOR gate=
+s. In that respect a high fan-in NOR/NAND can have similar time/power consu=
+mption than a seemingly more complex case of if statement. In zero order, f=
+or single output block, delay and power is determined by the number of inpu=
+ts independent of the complexity of the RTL/HDL code. In first order one ha=
+s to account that NAND/NOR logic is more efficient than XOR/XNOR logic but =
+for bigger trees this difference is less pronounced as XOR/XNOR trees will =
+be synthesized to more efficient trees using AOI (and-or-invert) cells.
+
+greets,
+Staf.
+
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