# Resolving ISA conflicts and providing a pain-free RISC-V Standards Upgrade Path In a lengthy thread that ironically was full of conflict indicative of the future direction in which RISC-V will go if left unresolved, multiple Custom Extensions were noted to be permitted free rein to introduce global binary-encoding conflict with no means of resolution described or endorsed by the RISC-V Standard: a practice that has known disastrous and irreversible consequences for any architecture that permits such practices (1). Much later on in the discussion it was realised that there is also no way within the current RISC-V Specification to transition to improved versions of the standard, regardless of whether the fixes are absolutely critical show-stoppers or whether they are just keeping the standard up-to-date (2). With no transition path there is guaranteed to be tension and conflict within the RISC-V Community over whether revisions should be made: should existing legacy designs be prioritised, mutually-exclusively over future designs (and what happens during the transition period is absolute chaos, with the compiler toolchain, software ecosystem and ultimately the end-users bearing the full brunt of the impact). If several overlapping revisions are required that have not yet transitioned out of use (which could take well over two decades to occur) the situation becomes disastrous for the credibility of the entire RISC-V ecosystem. It was also pointed out that Compliance is an extremely important factor to take into consideration, and that Custom Extensions (as being optional) effectively and quite reasonably fall entirely outside of the scope of Compliance Testing. At this point in the discussion however it was not yet noted the stark problem that the *mandatory* RISC-V Specification also faces, by virtue of there being no transitional way to bring in show-stopping critical alterations. To put this into perspective, just taking into account hardware costs alone: with production mask charges for 28nm being around USD $1.5m, engineering development costs and licensing of RTLs for peripherals being of a similar magnitude, no manufacturer is going to back away from selling a "flawed" or "legacy" product (whether it complies with the RISC-V Specification or not) without a bitter fight. It was also pointed out that there will be significant software tool maintenance costs for manufacturers, meaning that the probability will be extremely high that they will refuse to shoulder such costs, and will publish and continue to publish (and use) hopelessly out-of-date unpatched tools. This practice is well-known to result in security flaws going unpatched, with one of many immediate undesirable consequences being that product in extremely large volume gets discarded into landfill. **All and any of the issues that were discussed, and all of those that were not, can be avoided by providing a hardware-level runtime-enabled forwards and backwards compatible transition path between *all* parts (mandatory or not) of current and future revisions of the RISC-V ISA Standard.** The rest of the discussion - indicative as it was of the stark mutually exclusive gap being faced by the RISC-V ISA Standard given that it does not cope with the problem - was an effort by two groups in two clear camps: one that wanted things to remain as they are, and another that made efforts to point out that the consequences of not taking action are clearly extreme and irreversible (which, unfortunately, given the severity, some of the first group were unable to believe, despite there being clear historical precedent for the exact same mistake being made in other architectures, and the consequences on the same being absolutely clear). However after a significant amount of time, certain clear requirements came out of the discussion: * Any proposal must be a minimal change with minimal (or zero) impact * Any proposal should place no restriction on existing or future ISA encoding space * Any proposal should take into account that there are existing implementors of the (yet to be finalised but still "partly frozen") Standard who may resist, for financial investment reasons, efforts to make any change (at all) that could cost them immediate short-term profits. Several proposals were put forward (and some are still under discussion) * "Do nothing": problem is not severe: no action needed. * "Do nothing": problem is out-of-scope for RISC-V Foundation. * "Do nothing": problem complicates Compliance Testing (and is out of scope) * "MISA": the MISA CSR enables and disables extensions already: use that * "MISA-like": a new CSR which switches in and out new encodings (without destroying state) * "mvendorid/marchid WARL": switching the entire "identity" of a machine * "ioctl-like": a OO proposal based around the linux kernel "ioctl" system. Each of these will be discussed below in their own sections. # Do nothing (no problem exists) TBD (basically not an option). There were several solutions offered that fell into this category. A few of them are listed in the introduction; more are listed below, and it was exhaustively (and exhaustingly) established that none of them are workable. Initially it was pointed out that Fabless Semiconductor companies could simply license multiple Custom Extensions and a suitable RISC-V core, and modify them accordingly. The Fabless Semi Company would be responsible for paying the NREs on re-developing the test vectors (as the extension licensers would be extremely unlikely to do that without payment), and given that said Companies have an "integration" job to do, it would be reasonable to expect them to have such additional costs as well. The costs of this approach were outlined and discussed as being disproportionate and extreme compared to the actual likely cost of licensing the Custom Extensions in the first place. Additionally it was pointed out that not only hardware NREs would be involved but custom software tools (compilers and more) would also be required (and maintained separately, on the basis that upstream would not accept them except under extreme pressure, and then only with prejudice). All similar schemes involving customisation of the custom extensions were likewise rejected, but not before the customisation process was mistakenly conflated with tne *normal* integration process of developing a custom processor (Bus Architectures, Cache layouts, peripheral layouts). The most compelling hardware-related reason (excluding the severe impact on the software ecosystem) for rejecting the customisation-of-customisation approach was the case where Extensions were using an instruction encoding space (48-bit, 64-bit) *greater* than that which the chosen core could cope with (32-bit, 48-bit). Overall, none of the options presented were feasible, and, in addition, with no clear leadership from the RISC-V Foundation on how to avoid global world-wide encoding conflict, even if they were followed through, still would result in the failure of the RISC-V ecosystem due to irreversible global conflicting ISA binary-encoding meanings (POWERPC's Altivec / SPE nightmare). This in addition to the case where the RISC-V Foundation wishes to fix a critical show-stopping update to the Standard, post-release, where billions of dollars have been spent on deploying RISC-V in the field. # Do nothing (out of scope) TBD (basically, may not be RV Foundation's "scope", still results in problem, so not an option) This was one of the first arguments presented: The RISC-V Foundation considers Custom Extensions to be "out of scope"; that "it's not their problem, therefore there isn't a problem". The logical errors in this argument were quickly enumerated: namely that the RISC-V Foundation is not in control of the uses to which RISC-V is put, such that public global conflicts in binary-encoding are a hundred percent guaranteed to occur (*outside* of the control and remit of the RISC-V Foundation), and a hundred percent guaranteed to occur in *commodity* hardware where Debian, Fedora, SUSE and other distros will be hardest hit by the resultant chaos, and that will just be the more "visible" aspect of the underlying problem. # Do nothing (Compliance too complex, therefore out of scope) TBD (basically, may not be RV Foundation's "scope", still results in problem, so not an option) The summary here was that Compliance testing of Custom Extensions is not just out-of-scope, but even if it was taken into account that binary-encoding meanings could change, it would still be out-of-scope. However at the time that this argument was made, it had not yet been appreciated fully the impact that revisions to the Standard would have, when billions of dollars worth of (older, legacy) RISC-V hardware had already been deployed. Two interestingly diametrically-opposed equally valid arguments exist here: * Whilst Compliance testing of Custom Extensions is definitely legitimately out of scope, Compliance testing of simultaneous legacy (old revisions of ISA Standards) and current (new revisions of ISA Standard) definitely is not. Efforts to reduce *Compliance Testing* complexity is therefore "Compliance Tail Wagging Standard Dog". * Beyond a certain threshold, complexity of Compliance Testing is so burdensome that it risks outright rejection of the entire Standard. Meeting these two diametrically-opposed perspectives requires that the solution be very, very simple. # MISA TBD, basically MISA not suitable MISA permits extensions to be disabled by masking out the relevant bit. Hypothetically it could be used to disable one extension, then enable another that happens to use the same binary encoding. *However*: * MISA Extension disabling is permitted (optionally) to **destroy** the state information. Thus it is totally unsuitable for cases where instructions from different Custom extensions are needed in quick succession. * MISA was only designed to cover Standard Extensions. * There is nothing to prevent multiple Extensions being enabled that wish to simultaneously interpret the same binary encoding. * There is nothing in the MISA specification which permits *future* versions (bug-fixes) of the RISC-V ISA to be "switched in". Overall, whilst the MISA concept is a step in the right direction it's a hundred percent unsuitable for solving the problem. # MISA-like TBD, basically same as mvend/march WARL except needs an extra CSR where mv/ma doesn't. Out of the MISA discussion came a "MISA-like" proposal, which would take into account the flaws pointed out by trying to use "MISA": * The MISA-like CSR's meaning would be identified by compilers using the mvendor-id/march-id tuple as a compiler target * Each custom-defined bit of the MISA-like CSR would (mutually-exclusively) redirect binary encoding(s) to specific encodings * No Extension would *actually* be disabled: its internal state would be left on (permanently) so that switching of ISA decoding could be done inside inner loops without adverse impact on performance. Whilst it was the first "workable" solution it was also noted that the scheme is invasive: it requires an entirely new CSR to be added to the privileged spec (thus making existing implementations redundant). This does not completely fulfil the "minimum impact" requirement. Also interesting around the same time an additional discussion was raised that covered the *compiler* side of the same equation. This revolved around using mvendorid-marchid tuples at the compiler level, to be put into assembly output (by gcc), preserving the required *globally* unique identifying information for binutils to successfully turn the custom instruction into an actual binary-encoding (plus binary-encoding of the context-switching information). (**TBD, Jacob, separate page? review this para?**) # mvendorid/marchid WARL TBD paraphrase and clarify Coming out of the software-related proposal by Jacob, which hinged on the idea of a global gcc / binutils database that kept and coordinated architectural encodings, was to quite simply make the mvendorid and marchid CSRs have WARL (writeable) characteristics. For instances where mvendorid and marchid are readable, that would be taken to be a Standards-mandatory "declaration" that the architecture has *no* Custom Extensions. This incredibly simple non-invasive idea has some unique and distinct advantages over other proposals: * Existing designs - even though the specification is not finalised (but has "frozen" aspects) - would be completely unaffected: the change is to the "wording" of the specification to "retrospectively" fit reality. * Unlike with the MISA idea this is *purely* at the "decode" phase: no internal Extension state information is permitted to be disabled, altered or destroyed as a direct result of writing to the mvendor/march-id CSRs. * Compliance Testing may be carried out with a different vendorid/marchid tuple set prior to a test, allowing a vendor to claim *Certified* compatibility with *both* one (or more) legacy variants of the RISC-V Specification *and* with a present one. * With sufficient care taken in the implementation an implementor may have multiple interpretations of the same binary encoding within an inner loop, with a single instruction (to the WARL register) changing the meaning. A couple of points were made: * Compliance Testing may **fail** any system that has mvendorid/marchid as WARL. This however is a clear case of "Compliance Tail Wagging Standard Dog". * The redirection of meaning of certain binary encodings to multiple engines was considered extreme, eyebrow-raising, and also (importantly) potentially expensive, introducing significant latency at the decode phase. On this latter point, it was observed that MISA already switches out entire sets of instructions (interacts at the "decode" phase). The difference between what MISA does and the mvendor/march-id WARL idea is that whilst MISA only switches instruction decoding on (or off), the WARL idea *redirects* encoding, to *different* engines, fortunately in a deliberately mutually-exclusive fashion. Implementations would therefore, in each Extension (assuming one separate "decode" engine per Extension), simply have an extra (mutually-exclusively enabled) wire in the AND gate for any given binary encoding, and in this way there would actually be very little impact on the latency. The assumption here is that there are not dozens of Extensions vying for the same binary encoding (at which point the Fabless Semi Company has other much more pressing issues to deal with that make resolving encoding conflicts trivial by comparison). Also pointed out was that in certain cases pipeline stalls could be introduced during the switching phase, if needed. **This is the only one of the proposals that meet the full requirements** # ioctl-like TBD - [[ioctl]] for full details, summary kept here This proposal basically mirrors the concept of POSIX ioctls, providing (arbitrarily) 8 functions (opcodes) whose meaning may be over-ridden in an object-orientated fashion by calling an "open handle" (and close) function (instruction) that switches (redirects) the 8 functions over to different opcodes. The proposal is functionally near-identical to that of the mvendor/march-id except extended down to individual opcodes. As such it could hypothetically be proposed as an independent Standard Extension in its own right that extends the Custom Opcode space *or* fits into the brownfield spaces within the existing ISA opcode space. One of the reasons for seeking an extension of the Custom opcode space is that the Custom opcode space is severely limited: only 2 opcodes are free within the 32-bit space, and only four total remain in the 48 and 64-bit space. Despite the proposal (which is still undergoing clarification) being worthwhile in its own right, and standing on its own merits and thus definitely worthwhile pursuing, it is non-trivial and much more invasive than the mvendor/march-id WARL concept. # Discussion and analysis TBD # Conclusion In the early sections (those in the category "no action") it was established in each case that the problem is not solved. Avoidance of responsibility, or conflation of "not our problem" with "no problem" does not make "problem" go away. The first idea considered which could fix the problem was to just use the pre-existing MISA CSR, however this was determined not to have the right coverage (Standard Extensions only), and also crucially it destroyed state. Whilst unworkable it did lead to the first "workable" solution, "MISA-like". The "MISA-like" proposal, whilst meeting most of the requirements, led to a better idea: "mvendor/march-id WARL", which, in combination with an offshoot idea related to gcc and binutils, is the only proposal that fully meets the requirements. The "ioctl-like" idea *also* solves the problem, but, unlike the WARL idea does not meet the full requirements to be "non-invasive" and "backwards compatible" with pre-existing (pre-Standards-finalised) implementations. It does however stand on its own merit as a way to extend the extremely small Custom Extension opcode space, even if it itself implemented *as* a Custom Extension. Overall the mvendor/march-id WARL idea meets the three requirements, and is the only idea that meets the three requirements: * **Any proposal must be a minimal change with minimal (or zero) impact** (met through being purely a single change to the specification: mvendor/march-id changes from read-only to WARL) * **Any proposal should place no restriction on existing or future ISA encoding space** (met because it is just a change to one pre-existing CSR) * **Any proposal should take into account that there are existing implementors of the (yet to be finalised but still "partly frozen") Standard who may resist, for financial investment reasons, efforts to make any change (at all) that could cost them immediate short-term profits.** (met because existing implementations, with the exception of those that have Custom Extensions, come under the "vendor/arch-id read only is a declaration of having no Custom Extensions" fall-back category) So to summarise: * The consequences of not tackling this are severe: the RISC-V Foundation cannot take a back seat. If it does, clear historical precedent shows 100% what the outcome will be (1). * The retro-fitting cost onto existing implementations (even though the specification has not been finalised) is negligeable (changes to words in the specification) * The benefits are clear (pain-free transition path for vendors to safely upgrade over time; no fights over Custom opcode space; no hassle for software toolchain; no hassle for GNU/Linux Distros) * The implementation details are clear (and problem-free except for vendors who insist on deploying dozens of conflicting Custom Extensions: an extreme unlikely outlier). * Compliance Testing is straightforward and allows vendors to seek and obtain *multiple* Compliance Certificates with past, present and future variants of the RISC-V Standard (in the exact same processor), in order support legacy customers and provide same customers with a way to avoid "impossible-to-make" decisions that throw out ultra-expensive multi-decade proprietary legacy software at the same as the hardware. # Conversation Exerpts The following conversation exerpts are taken from the ISA-dev discussion ## (1) Albert Calahan on SPE / Altiven conflict in POWERPC > Yes. Well, it should be blocked via legal means. Incompatibility is > a disaster for an architecture. > > The viability of PowerPC was badly damaged when SPE was > introduced. This was a vector instruction set that was incompatible > with the AltiVec instruction set. Software vendors had to choose, > and typically the choice was "neither". Nobody wants to put in the > effort when there is uncertainty and a market fragmented into > small bits. > > Note how Intel did not screw up. When SSE was added, MMX remained. > Software vendors could trust that instructions would be supported. > Both MMX and SSE remain today, in all shipping processors. With very > few exceptions, Intel does not ship chips with missing functionality. > There is a unified software ecosystem. > > This goes beyond the instruction set. MMU functionality also matters. > You can add stuff, but then it must be implemented in every future CPU. > You can not take stuff away without harming the architecture. ## (2) Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton on Standards backwards-compatibility > For the case where "legacy" variants of the RISC-V Standard are > backwards-forwards-compatibly supported over a 10-20 year period in > Industrial and Military/Goverment-procurement scenarios (so that the > impossible-to-achieve pressure is off to get the spec ABSOLUTELY > correct, RIGHT now), nobody would expect a seriously heavy-duty amount > of instruction-by-instruction switching: it'd be used pretty much once > and only once at boot-up (or once in a Hypervisor Virtual Machine > client) and that's it. ## (3) Allen Baum on Standards Compliance > Putting my compliance chair hat on: One point that was made quite > clear to me is that compliance will only test that an implementation > correctly implements the portions of the spec that are mandatory, and > the portions of the spec that are optional and the implementor claims > it is implementing. It will test nothing in the custom extension space, > and doesn't monitor or care what is in that space.