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1 # Resolving ISA conflicts and providing a pain-free RISC-V Standards Upgrade Path
2
3 In a lengthy thread that ironically was full of conflict indicative
4 of the future direction in which RISC-V will go if left unresolved,
5 multiple Custom Extensions were noted to be permitted free rein to
6 introduce global binary-encoding conflict with no means of resolution
7 described or endorsed by the RISC-V Standard: a practice that has known
8 disastrous and irreversible consequences for any architecture that
9 permits such practices (1).
10
11 Much later on in the discussion it was realised that there is also no way
12 within the current RISC-V Specification to transition to improved versions
13 of the standard, regardless of whether the fixes are absolutely critical
14 show-stoppers or whether they are just keeping the standard up-to-date (2).
15
16 With no transition path there is guaranteed to be tension and conflict
17 within the RISC-V Community over whether revisions should be made:
18 should existing legacy designs be prioritised, mutually-exclusively over
19 future designs (and what happens during the transition period is absolute
20 chaos). If several overlapping revisions are required that have not
21 yet transitioned out of use (which could take well over two decades to
22 occur) the situation becomes disastrous for the credibility of RISC-V.
23
24 It was also pointed out that Compliance is an extremely important factor
25 to take into consideration, and that Custom Extensions (as being optional)
26 effectively fall entirely outside of the Compliance Testing. At this
27 point in the discussion however it was not yet noted the stark problem
28 that the *mandatory* RISC-V Specification also faces, by virtue of there
29 being no transitional way to bring in show-stopping critical alterations.
30
31 To put this into perspective, just taking into account hardware costs
32 alone: with production mask charges for 28nm being around USD $1.5m,
33 engineering development costs and licensing of RTLs for peripherals
34 being of a similar magnitude, no manufacturer is going to back away
35 from selling a "flawed" or "legacy" product (whether it complies with
36 the RISC-V Specification or not) without a bitter fight.
37
38 It was also pointed out that there will be significant software tool
39 maintenance costs for manufacturers, meaning that the probability will
40 be extremely high that they will refuse to shoulder such costs, and
41 publish hopelessly out-of-date unpatched tools. This practice is
42 well-known to result in security flaws going unpatched, with one
43 of many immediate consequences being that product gets discarded into
44 landfill.
45
46 All and any of the issues that were discussed, and all of those that
47 were not, can be avoided by providing a forwards and backwards
48 compatible transition path between the current and future *mandatory*
49 parts of revisions of the RISC-V ISA Standard.
50
51 The rest of the discussion - indicative as it was of the stark mutually
52 exclusive gap being faced by the RISC-V ISA Standard given that it does
53 not cope with the problem - was an effort by two groups in two clear
54 camps: one that wanted things to remain as they are, and another that
55 made efforts to point out that the consequences of not taking action
56 are clearly extreme and irreversible (which, unfortunately, given the
57 severity, some of the first group were unable to believe, despite there
58 being clear historical precedent for the same mistake being made in
59 other architectures).
60
61 However after a significant amount of time, certain clear requirements came
62 out of the discussion:
63
64 * Any proposal must be a minimal change with minimal (or zero) impact
65 * Any proposal should place no restriction on existing or future
66 ISA encoding space
67 * Any proposal should take into account that there are existing implementors
68 of the (yet to be finalised but still "partly frozen") Standard who may
69 resist, for financial investment reasons, efforts to make any change
70 (at all) that could cost them immediate short-term profits.
71
72 Several proposals were put forward (and some are still under discussion)
73
74 * "Do nothing": problem is not severe: no action needed.
75 * "Do nothing": problem is out-of-scope for RISC-V Foundation.
76 * "Do nothing": problem complicates Compliance Testing (and is out of scope)
77 * "MISA": the MISA CSR enables and disables extensions already: use that
78 * "MISA-like": a new CSR which switches in and out new encodings
79 (without destroying state)
80 * "mvendorid/marchid WARL": switching the entire "identity" of a machine
81 * "ioctl-like": a OO proposal based around the linux kernel "ioctl" system.
82
83 Each of these will be discussed below in their own sections.
84
85 # Do nothing (no problem exists)
86
87 TBD (basically not an option).
88
89 There were several solutions offered that fell into this category.
90 A few of them are listed in the introduction; more are listed below,
91 and it was exhaustively (and exhaustingly) established that none of
92 them are workable.
93
94 Initially it was pointed out that Fabless Semiconductor companies could
95 simply license multiple Custom Extensions and a suitable RISC-V core, and
96 modify them accordingly. The Fabless Semi Company would be responsible
97 for paying the NREs on re-developing the test vectors (as the extension
98 licensers would be extremely unlikely to do that without payment), and
99 given that said Companies have an "integration" job to do, it would
100 be reasonable to expect them to have such additional costs as well.
101
102 The costs of this approach were outlined and discussed as being
103 disproportionate and extreme compared to the actual likely cost of
104 licensing the Custom Extensions in the first place. Additionally it
105 was pointed out that not only hardware NREs would be involved but
106 custom software tools (compilers and more) would also be required
107 (and maintained separately, on the basis that upstream would not
108 accept them except under extreme pressure, and then only with
109 prejudice).
110
111 All similar schemes involving customisation of the custom extensions
112 were likewise rejected, but not before the customisation process was
113 mistakenly conflated with tne *normal* integration process of developing
114 a custom processor (Bus Architectures, Cache layouts, peripheral layouts).
115
116 The most compelling hardware-related reason (excluding the severe impact on
117 the software ecosystem) for rejecting the customisation-of-customisation
118 approach was the case where Extensions were using an instruction encoding
119 space (48-bit, 64-bit) *greater* than that which the chosen core could
120 cope with (32-bit, 48-bit).
121
122 Overall, none of the options presented were feasible, and, in addition,
123 even if they were followed through, still would result in the failure
124 of the RISC-V ecosystem due to global conflicting ISA binary-encoding
125 meanings (POWERPC's Altivec / SPE nightmare).
126
127 # Do nothing (out of scope)
128
129 TBD (basically, may not be RV Foundation's "scope", still results in
130 problem, so not an option)
131
132 This was one of the first arguments presented: The RISC-V Foundation
133 considers Custom Extensions to be "out of scope"; that "it's not their
134 problem, therefore there isn't a problem".
135
136 The logical errors in this argument were quickly enumerated: namely
137 that the RISC-V Foundation is not in control of the use-cases, such
138 that binary-encoding is a hundred percent guaranteed to occur, and
139 a hundred percent guaranteed to occur in *commodity* hardware where
140 Debian, Fedora, SUSE and other distros will be hardest hit by the
141 resultant chaos, and that will just be the more "visible" aspect of
142 the underlying problem.
143
144 # Do nothing (Compliance too complex, therefore out of scope)
145
146 TBD (basically, may not be RV Foundation's "scope", still results in
147 problem, so not an option)
148
149 Two interestingly diametrically-opposed equally valid arguments exist here:
150
151 * Whilst Compliance testing of Custom Extensions is definitely legitimately
152 out of scope, Compliance testing of simultaneous legacy (old revisions of
153 ISA Standards) and current (new revisions of ISA Standard) definitely
154 is not. Efforts to reduce *Compliance Testing* complexity is therefore
155 "Compliance Tail Wagging Standard Dog".
156 * Beyond a certain threshold, complexity of Compliance Testing is so
157 burdensome that it risks outright rejection of the entire Standard.
158
159 Meeting these two diametrically-opposed perspectives requires that the
160 solution be very, very simple.
161
162 # MISA
163
164 TBD, basically MISA not suitable
165
166 MISA permits extensions to be disabled by masking out the relevant bit.
167 Hypothetically it could be used to disable one extension, then enable
168 another that happens to use the same binary encoding.
169
170 *However*:
171
172 * MISA Extension disabling is permitted (optionally) to **destroy**
173 the state information. Thus it is totally unsuitable for cases
174 where instructions from different Custom extensions are needed in
175 quick succession.
176 * MISA was only designed to cover Standard Extensions.
177 * There is nothing to prevent multiple Extensions being enabled
178 that wish to simultaneously interpret the same binary encoding.
179
180 Overall, whilst the MISA concept is a step in the right direction it's
181 a hundred percent unsuitable for solving the problem.
182
183 # MISA-like
184
185 TBD, basically same as mvend/march WARL except needs an extra CSR where
186 mv/ma doesn't.
187
188 # mvendorid/marchid WARL
189
190 TBD paraphrase and clarify
191
192 > In an earlier part of the thread someone kindly pointed out that MISA
193 > already switches out entire sets of instructions [which interacts at the
194 > "decode" phase]. However it was noted after a few days of investigating
195 > that particular lead that:
196 >
197 > * MISA Extension disabling is permitted (optionally) to DESTROY the state
198 > information (which means that it *has* to be re-initialised just to be
199 > safe... mistake in the standard, there), and * MISA was only designed
200 > to cover Standard Extensions.
201 >
202 > So the practice of switching extensions in and out - and the resultant
203 > "disablement" and "enablement" at the *instruction decode phase* is
204 > *already* a hard requirement as part of conforming with the present
205 > RISC-V Specification.
206 >
207 > Around the same MISA discussion, someone else also kindly pointed out
208 > that one solution to the heavyweight nature of the switching would
209 > be to deliberately introduce a pipeline stall whilst the switching is
210 > occurring: I can see the sense in that approach, even if I don't know the
211 > full details of what each implementor might choose to do. They may even
212 > choose two, or three, or N pipeline stalls: it really doesn't matter,
213 > as it's an implementors' choice (and problem to solve).
214 >
215 > So yes it's pretty heavy-duty... and also already required.
216 >
217 > For the case where "legacy" variants of the RISC-V Standard are
218 > backwards-forwards-compatibly supported over a 10-20 year period
219 > in Industrial and Military/Goverment-procurement scenarios (so that
220 > the impossible-to-achieve pressure is off to get the spec ABSOLUTELY
221 > correct, RIGHT now), nobody would expect a seriously heavy-duty amount
222 > of instruction-by-instruction switching: it'd be used pretty much once
223 > and only once at boot-up (or once in a Hypervisor Virtual Machine client)
224 > and that's it.
225 >
226 > I can however foresee instances where implementors would actually
227 > genuinely want a bank of operations to be carried out using one extension,
228 > followed immediately by another bank from a (conflicting binary-encoding)
229 > extension, in an inner loop: Software-defined MPEG / MP4 decode to call
230 > DCT block decode Custom Extension followed immediately by Custom Video
231 > Processing Extension followed immediately by Custom DSP Processing
232 > Extension to do YUV-to-RGB conversion for example is something that
233 > is clearly desirable. Solving that one would be entiiirely their
234 > problem... and the RISC-V Specification really really should give them
235 > the space to do that in a clear-cut unambiguous way.
236
237 # ioctl-like
238
239 TBD - [[ioctl]] for full details, summary kept here
240
241 # Discussion and analysis
242
243 TBD
244
245 # Conclusion
246
247 TBD
248
249 # Conversation Exerpts
250
251 The following conversation exerpts are taken from the ISA-dev discussion
252
253 ## (1) Albert Calahan on SPE / Altiven conflict in POWERPC
254
255 > Yes. Well, it should be blocked via legal means. Incompatibility is
256 > a disaster for an architecture.
257 >
258 > The viability of PowerPC was badly damaged when SPE was
259 > introduced. This was a vector instruction set that was incompatible
260 > with the AltiVec instruction set. Software vendors had to choose,
261 > and typically the choice was "neither". Nobody wants to put in the
262 > effort when there is uncertainty and a market fragmented into
263 > small bits.
264 > Note how Intel did not screw up. When SSE was added, MMX remained.
265 > Software vendors could trust that instructions would be supported.
266 > Both MMX and SSE remain today, in all shipping processors. With very
267 > few exceptions, Intel does not ship chips with missing functionality.
268 > There is a unified software ecosystem.
269 >
270 > This goes beyond the instruction set. MMU functionality also matters.
271 > You can add stuff, but then it must be implemented in every future CPU.
272 > You can not take stuff away without harming the architecture.
273
274 ## (2) Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton on Standards backwards-compatibility
275
276 > For the case where "legacy" variants of the RISC-V Standard are
277 > backwards-forwards-compatibly supported over a 10-20 year period in
278 > Industrial and Military/Goverment-procurement scenarios (so that the
279 > impossible-to-achieve pressure is off to get the spec ABSOLUTELY
280 > correct, RIGHT now), nobody would expect a seriously heavy-duty amount
281 > of instruction-by-instruction switching: it'd be used pretty much once
282 > and only once at boot-up (or once in a Hypervisor Virtual Machine
283 > client) and that's it.
284
285 ## (3) Allen Baum on Standards Compliance
286
287 > Putting my compliance chair hat on: One point that was made quite
288 > clear to me is that compliance will only test that an implementation
289 > correctly implements the portions of the spec that are mandatory, and
290 > the portions of the spec that are optional and the implementor claims
291 > it is implementing. It will test nothing in the custom extension space,
292 > and doesn't monitor or care what is in that space.
293